Showing posts with label North Dakota. Show all posts
Showing posts with label North Dakota. Show all posts

Oct 4, 2013

Videos on the North Dakota Citizen Dividend Loss

Lawmakers reject direct payments to residents

Complete House Discussion Videos are below, including mention of Robin Hood and who is robbing from whom.  There is also mention of the Alaska Permanent Fund dividend. These should be interesting for people interested in citizen dividend or unconditional basic income.

There are a few solid and a few misleading arguments. These arguments will be repeated many times in Switzerland when the Swiss get ready for their referendum on an unconditional basic income. They will be repeated millions of times in the European Union as the Europeans consider their own EU initiative for an unconditional basic income.

Bill Videos for HCR 3032 (Is there a transcript of these videos?)

Bill Videos for HCR 3036


The following is some record of what happened to these bills.
http://www.legis.nd.gov/assembly/63-2013/documents/13-3088-01000.pdf?20131004040718

HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 3032
Introduced by
Representatives M. Nelson, Bellew

A concurrent resolution to amend and reenact section 18 of article X of the Constitution of North 
Dakota, relating to constitutional authorization for the legislative assembly to provide by law for 
direct payments to North Dakota residents

The legislative assembly may provide by law for direct general allocations of state funds to 
North Dakota resident individuals upon eligibility terms and conditions established by law. An 
allocation authorized under this section must be in a uniform amount for each eligible individual. 
The legislative assembly shall establish a minimum period of continuous residency in this state 
immediately preceding eligibility for an allocation, but that residency period may not be less than 
one year.

HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 3036
Sixty-third
Legislative Assembly
of North Dakota
Introduced by
Representatives Steiner, Bellew, Hanson, Ruby, Schatz
A concurrent resolution to amend and reenact section 18 of article X of the Constitution of North
Dakota, relating to constitutional authorization for the legislative assembly to provide by law for
direct payments to North Dakota residents.

http://www.legis.nd.gov/assembly/63-2013/journals/hr-dailyjnl-22.pdf#pagemode=bookmarks&Page369
February 6, 2013

FIRST READING OF HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION
Reps. M. Nelson, Bellew introduced:
HCR 3032: A concurrent resolution to amend and reenact section 18 of article X of the
Constitution of North Dakota, relating to constitutional authorization for the legislative
assembly to provide by law for direct payments to North Dakota residents.
Was read the first time and referred to the Judiciary Committee.

February 21, 2013 

FIRST READING OF HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTIONS 
Reps. Steiner, Bellew, Hanson, Ruby, Schatz introduced: 
HCR 3036: A concurrent resolution to amend and reenact section 18 of article X of the 
Constitution of North Dakota, relating to constitutional authorization for the legislative 
assembly to provide by law for direct payments to North Dakota residents. 
Was read the first time and referred to the Judiciary Committee.

March 19, 2013

REPORT OF STANDING COMMITTEE
HCR 3032: Judiciary Committee (Rep. K. Koppelman, Chairman) recommends DO NOT 
Page 973974 JOURNAL OF THE HOUSE 48th DAY 
PASS (11 YEAS, 1 NAYS, 2 ABSENT AND NOT VOTING). HCR 3032 was placed
on the Eleventh order on the calendar. 

REPORT OF STANDING COMMITTEE
HCR 3036: Judiciary Committee (Rep. K. Koppelman, Chairman) recommends DO NOT 
PASS (7 YEAS, 5 NAYS, 2 ABSENT AND NOT VOTING). HCR 3036 was placed on 
the Eleventh order on the calendar. 

March 20, 2013 
SECOND READING OF HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION
HCR 3032: A concurrent resolution to amend and reenact section 18 of article X of the 
Constitution of North Dakota, relating to constitutional authorization for the legislative 
assembly to provide by law for direct payments to North Dakota residents.
ROLL CALL
The question being on the final adoption of the resolution, which has been read, and has 
committee recommendation of DO NOT PASS. The roll was called and there were 27 YEAS, 
66 NAYS, 0 EXCUSED, 1 ABSENT AND NOT VOTING.
YEAS: Amerman; Beadle; Bellew; Boe; Boschee; Delmore; Dosch; Glassheim; Gruchalla; 
Guggisberg; Hatlestad; Keiser; Kelsh, J.; Kelsh, S.; Laning; Louser; Nelson, M.; 
Onstad; Oversen; Owens; Porter; Ruby; Schmidt; Strinden; Sukut; Toman; Zaiser
NAYS: Anderson; Becker; Belter; Boehning; Brabandt; Brandenburg; Carlson; Damschen; 
Delzer; Dockter; Drovdal; Fehr; Frantsvog; Froseth; Grande; Haak; Hawken; 
Headland; Heilman; Heller; Hofstad; Hogan; Holman; Hunskor; Johnson, D.; 
Johnson, N.; Karls; Kasper; Kempenich; Kiefert; Klein; Klemin; Koppelman, B.; 
Koppelman, K.; Kreidt; Kretschmar; Kreun; Larson; Looysen; Maragos; Martinson; 
Meier; Mock; Monson; Mooney; Muscha; Nathe; Nelson, J.; Paur; Pollert; Rohr; 
Rust; Sanford; Schatz; Silbernagel; Skarphol; Steiner; Streyle; Thoreson; Trottier; 
Vigesaa; Wall; Weisz; Wieland; Williams; Speaker Devlin
ABSENT AND NOT VOTING: Hanson
HCR 3032 was declared lost on a recorded roll call vote.

SECOND READING OF HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION
HCR 3036: A concurrent resolution to amend and reenact section 18 of article X of the 
Constitution of North Dakota, relating to constitutional authorization for the legislative 
assembly to provide by law for direct payments to North Dakota residents.
ROLL CALL
The question being on the final adoption of the resolution, which has been read, and has 
committee recommendation of DO NOT PASS. The roll was called and there were 29 YEAS, 
64 NAYS, 0 EXCUSED, 1 ABSENT AND NOT VOTING.
YEAS: Beadle; Bellew; Boschee; Delmore; Dosch; Glassheim; Gruchalla; Guggisberg; 
Page 98449th DAY WEDNESDAY, MARCH 20, 2013 985
Haak; Hatlestad; Hogan; Hunskor; Johnson, N.; Kelsh, J.; Kelsh, S.; Laning; Louser;
Meier; Mock; Muscha; Nelson, M.; Onstad; Oversen; Ruby; Schatz; Steiner; 
Strinden; Sukut; Zaiser
NAYS: Amerman; Anderson; Becker; Belter; Boe; Boehning; Brabandt; Brandenburg; 
Carlson; Damschen; Delzer; Dockter; Drovdal; Fehr; Frantsvog; Froseth; Grande; 
Hawken; Headland; Heilman; Heller; Hofstad; Holman; Johnson, D.; Karls; Kasper; 
Keiser; Kempenich; Kiefert; Klein; Klemin; Koppelman, B.; Koppelman, K.; Kreidt; 
Kretschmar; Kreun; Larson; Looysen; Maragos; Martinson; Monson; Mooney; Nathe; 
Nelson, J.; Owens; Paur; Pollert; Porter; Rohr; Rust; Sanford; Schmidt; Silbernagel; 
Skarphol; Streyle; Thoreson; Toman; Trottier; Vigesaa; Wall; Weisz; Wieland; 
Williams; Speaker Devlin
ABSENT AND NOT VOTING: Hanson
HCR 3036 was declared lost on a recorded roll call vote.





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Mar 21, 2013

Politicians denied North Dakota residents their citizen ownership income

Lawmakers reject direct payments to residents: (March 2013)
The North Dakota House killed a pair of resolutions that would have allowed the state to pay money directly back to residents.
Two-thirds majority votes killed House Concurrent Resolutions 3036 and 3032, which would have allowed the direct payments if approved by voters in 2014.
The majority of Wednesday’s debate centered on HCR3036. It would require that the payment be uniform to all eligible residents who have lived in North Dakota for at least a year. Other eligibility conditions would have to be established by lawmakers.
Do the North Dokota residents like to get direct payment for their ownership of their state? We will never know. The politicians there prevented the bill from going to the voters.
Rep. Eliot Glassheim, D-Grand Forks, said the voters should have the opportunity to weigh in on the issue of direct payments.
“I think it’s something the people of North Dakota would love to have the chance to vote on and I think they’d like to pass it,” Glassheim said.
All is not lost. A significant number of the politicians supported this idea of wealth distribution to residents, following the Alaska Permanent Fund model.

There will be another day.

Follow-up: There is a video record of the lawmakers' discussion.
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